(Eric Ray Davidson/Trunk Archive)

Firstly, before watching these clips - never underestimate how close I came to including the moment McConaughey said, "Symmetrically speaking, I'm a good-looking guy".

I spat my pasta across the room. Icon!

So, the world's biggest podcaster - Joe Rogan - welcomed Oscar-winning Actor Matthew McConaughey onto his show this week, and I was all over it. Why? Because ever since A Time To Kill (1996), I've taken a casual interest in MM's work, I mean, what a breakthrough film that was. And, let's not forget, my widely reported Joe Rogan man-crush.

Throughout the interview, McConaughey dropped the most majestic wisdoms into the conversation. He even reveals his most prized life habits - which us lesser mortals can surely apply to our daily routines for a more serene, fulfilled, less shit existence. Most of us won't, however, necessarily relate to the shallownesses of fame, which he cites throughout the chat. Personally, I found these observations to be the most profound, not least because the concept of fame features heavily in my own podcast.

So, while I scrape pasta off my iMac, scroll down to watch my 3 highlights from the interview.

[LEGAL NOTICE: All clips are copyright to Joe Rogan, I share them with good intent, and to introduce humans to the man's talent for delving deeper into his guests' psychology than the average podcast schmuck. Should any party wish to pursue legal action against me, I'll be profoundly disgusted]

HIGHLIGHT 1:

"CHECK IN WITH YOURSELF BEFORE CHECKING-IN WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD."

I find few things more depressing than hearing about people who, upon waking-up, jump straight onto their phone, inspecting the latest drivel on instagram & twitter. Why do we do it? We know full well we'll see the same vacuous bullshit we saw the night before. I find this depressing because with regret, I'm guilty of this grotesque behaviour, too. A little part of me dies each time I catch myself doing it, which, in the interests of full disclosure, is roughly 83% of the time.

This week, I did, however, glance at the life affirming notes stuck to my bedhead before reaching for my phone. Now, before you all start chanting, "GO, CK... WHOOP!!", I'm 98% sure I look at them only 7% of my mornings. Pathetic.

HIGHLIGHT 2:

"THREE-HUNDRED-AND-NINETY-SIX PEOPLE WERE STARING AT ME. I REMEMBER FEELING IMBALANCED ABOUT IT."

Have I told you about my love of McConaughey's breakthrough film yet? I think you'll find I have. 'A Time To Kill' is the film responsible for him no longer being able to walk the streets anonymously. Overnight, his anonymity plummeted into oblivion, everyone knew who he was. I can't even imagine the head fuck that flip brought about.

To some, fame is desirable, but I've always had a troubled relationship with the concept. I'm not famous, obviously, but lately, the idea of it has wafted through my podcasts like a ghost with flatulence. Listening to McConaughey recount his overnight ascent into fame, there's a depressing beauty in the concept of "No" suddenly becoming "Yes" once you're a 'someone'. I mean, the guy was no more talented the day after his breakthrough film came out, but in the days preceding it, seemingly, no one gave two fucks about his professional desires. Again, a depressingly beautiful reality of life.

HIGHLIGHT 3:

"OUR FUTURE IS A COMPOUNDING INTEREST - YOU CAN DO SOMETHING TODAY AND GET REWARDED TOMORROW."

McConaughey shed over 50lbs for Dallas Buyers Club (2013) - the film that landed him his first Oscar. Severe weight loss aside, the anecdote he shared about 'compound interest' is delicious, and I wish to dedicate it to all artists who are fed-up seeing no significant return on their blood, sweat and effort. (No tears, please).

I can not lie, this was a standout moment for me, and truthfully, very comforting. I needn't go into detail about the precarious mindset of an artist - you all know how it feels to question your life choices on a weekly basis, right? Sometimes, on a daily. basis, frankly We're so focussed on that big carrot in the distance, that we all too often overlook the small progressive steps, tiny wins and mini achievements we rack-up along the way, My belief is that ignoring these small victories is ill-advised, because surely they're inching us a little closer to said carrot. Just a thought.

CK.

Watch the full interview below - it's a delight. Get Matthew McConaughey's new book 'Greenlights' here. Read my interview with Joe Roagn's official animator here

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